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  Is Silent Lambs and Bill Bowen still relevant?

  by HappyDad in

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  2. child-abuse

  when i joined this forum in 2004, silent lambs was a very important venue for those who suffered the crime of child abuse in the jehovah's witness religion.

  bill bowen was instrumental in exposing a lot of the cover up along with barbara anderson.

  i was wondering if silent lambs is still relevant and does it still help abuse victims?.

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  neat blue dog

  girl next door:

  Very, very well put 🙌
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  Was Mary Magdalene an apostle?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the new article about mary magdalene says:.

  the catholic church calls mary .

  “the apostle of the apostles” because she was the first to bring news of jesus’ resurrection to the apostles.

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  Apostolic succession is a real thing. Matthias was chosen to replace Judas Iscariot.

  I hardly think that proves apostolic succession, which asserts that a FAITHFUL TO DEATH apostle must be replaced. Judas wasn't replaced because he died physically, but, well, you know. Even Paul made a similar illustration about Christians being 'grafted in' to the vine
  
  
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  Was Mary Magdalene an apostle?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the new article about mary magdalene says:.

  the catholic church calls mary .

  “the apostle of the apostles” because she was the first to bring news of jesus’ resurrection to the apostles.

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  neat blue dog

  "The Twelve" was also likely the nickname of this inner circle group.

  Exactly, unlike "apostle" which was not exclusive.
  
  
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  Was Mary Magdalene an apostle?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the new article about mary magdalene says:.

  the catholic church calls mary .

  “the apostle of the apostles” because she was the first to bring news of jesus’ resurrection to the apostles.

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  neat blue dog

  That's what the Bible Students used to assert (new light didn't come until a century later), but I don't think that is correct. After all, Paul talked about Jesus appearing to "the twelve" and then says 'last of all he appeared to me', so I think it's pretty apparent the word apostle is used literally as a descriptive term.
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  Was Mary Magdalene an apostle?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the new article about mary magdalene says:.

  the catholic church calls mary .

  “the apostle of the apostles” because she was the first to bring news of jesus’ resurrection to the apostles.

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  neat blue dog

  The new article about Mary Magdalene says:

  The Catholic Church calls Mary . . . “the apostle of the apostles” because she was the first to bring news of Jesus’ resurrection to the apostles. . . . But this does not make her an apostle. And nowhere in the Scriptures is she called such.

  Apostle is from the Greek word to "send forth", like a messenger. Just as Paul was "an apostle to the nations" because of being sent forth, but 'not one of the twelve'. On that note, Mary was told by Jesus to "go to my brothers" and tell them about his resurrection. But WT just can't bear to say that about a woman, just like they've always lied about Judge Deborah, calling her only a prophetess, and how they never looked into the alternate interpretation of Paul seemingly saying that women should keep silent in the congregation.
  
  
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  Gerrit Loesch video from this week's meeting

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  he talks about how a group of 5,000 broke away from the organization due to distrust of government agents infiltrating the jws.

  they weren't regarded as apostates, just distrustful.

  he uses phrases like "their leader" and "his elders", and how they had a meeting with the governing body and made the decision for all these thousands to reintegrate them into the jws, splitting them up among congregations.

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  SBF, you're right, that's the exact clip. With regards to him being a true believer, I agree. Although he is the longest serving GB member, I think he is also the most simple minded and least conniving, almost stumbling on being on the GB. Most of his talks consist of verbatim quotes that he got from WT Library, just like an average rank and file would write.
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  Gerrit Loesch video from this week's meeting

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he talks about how a group of 5,000 broke away from the organization due to distrust of government agents infiltrating the jws.

  they weren't regarded as apostates, just distrustful.

  he uses phrases like "their leader" and "his elders", and how they had a meeting with the governing body and made the decision for all these thousands to reintegrate them into the jws, splitting them up among congregations.

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  He talks about how a group of 5,000 broke away from the organization due to distrust of government agents infiltrating the JWs. They weren't regarded as apostates, just distrustful. He uses phrases like "their leader" and "his Elders", and how they had a meeting with the Governing Body and made the decision for all these thousands to reintegrate them into the JWs, splitting them up among congregations. I just wonder: How can ANY JW watch this and not be hit with the fact that this is a HUMAN organization led by HUMANS ONLY?
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  terrified but waking up, child abuse, suicide etc.

  by anon1028 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im new to this forum, i dont know where else to post my story, sorry if im wrong for posting this on this subject.

  as i begin to wake up from being in the org i thought id introduce myself to this forum with how i was raised in the org..., ive been beginning to look at everyones stories from being raised as one and how they left, and i find comfort in knowing im not alone, so maybe another young person like me will find the same comfort reading my story.

  as you can tell by my username, i am posting this on an anonymous account because of fear of what the elders would do to me and my parents if they found out who i was.

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  neat blue dog

  You're young, don't forget that! I know it seems like you've lost time already, but there's so much more. Don't let them steal anymore and be patient while actively working towards your independence. I recommend the movie "Apostasy". You reminded me of it in some aspects, but while sad it is hopeful and empowering.
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  Alternate Jobs for the Governing Body..

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i’m not sure if this is in the right topic area or not, but sometimes i wonder:.

  if it were not for “religion”, what would the current gb do for a living??.

  my speculations:.

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  neat blue dog

  I like your imagination 😅
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  Beards in the WT: Africa too

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  as many know, african languages have for decades been given their own alternate cover with black people.

  their cover for the 2020 wt#3 also includes a bearded man.

  this can not be a coincidence.

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  neat blue dog

  That different covers exist, is not common knowledge.

  I assumed most knew, because it's been part of the tours at Bethel for decades and I think was also in the organization video.